A Kandi’s Land Look Back
By Lisa P.
You, sir, seem to be very concerned about me using a woman’s restroom, and you, ma’am seem equally worried that I may pose a threat to you in a space that is safe from men. May I ask you both to reflect on the following thoughts from a transgender male-to-female person before you pass final judgment?
Consider what it is like to be someone like me.
Let me begin with you sir. I imagine that your fear is derived from what you, as a male, would think about being in a woman’s restroom. As a male constantly “on the hunt” I am guessing you think that if a person with male genitals were in a women’s restroom, such a person would have to be there to try to find a woman to assault. Someone with those goals, male or female, would definitely be a threat to all women in the women’s room, heterosexual, lesbian and transgender alike. People like that are sexual predators. They are dangerous. Some of them may attack boys, which they would find in the men’s restrooms, by the way. The problem, you see, is that not everyone sexualizes women, girls and young boys and tries to dominate them, as you seem to suppose. IN ANY CASE, BE ASSURED, I AM A TRANSWOMAN (EMPHASIS ON THE WOMAN), NOT A SEXUAL PREDATOR, AND WE DON’T ASSAULT PEOPLE IN RESTROOMS!
And you, my dear. I imagine your fear is derived from your experience with the men in your life. They may have or may have tried to dominate you and have sexualized you on more than one occasion. You have generalized from this experience that all persons assigned male at birth will behave likewise. When you think logically about it, however, that experience should make you wary of anything those types of men are telling you about people who think, behave and dress as women (regardless of their genitilia).
I am a typical transwoman. When I was little, I watched movies and wanted to be the female protagonist, not the male one. When I was going through puberty I looked (and to this day still look) at pretty women as they pass, not because I wanted to get them into bed, but because I envied them and wanted to figure out how to look more like them (just as you no doubt sometimes do yourself with other women). I am a feminist because I hate the way men oversexualize everything, how they make women feel and how they dominate women constantly. Presenting as a woman, I experience all the same issues you experience with men. I have been hit on when I didn’t want to be and had catcalls come my way. I have been stalked and been in fear of my life while walking home at night. Why would someone like me have any reason to make you a target? I am an ally, a fellow worker in the struggle for equality. I am probably even more likely than you (statistically speaking) to be the subject of violence from a male. I know that the women’s room is a sanctuary for women — a safe place. I want it to remain that way, because I need safe places too. I DON’T WANT MEN TO COMMIT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN, PERIOD!
Please try to learn more, because I am not the goblin you imagine. Men, you should focus on the sexual predators (please!) – they are a problem for all of us and they need to be stopped. You won’t find them dressed as women and trying to use a women’s restroom. And, women, you need to embrace a sister who wants nothing from you in the bathroom other than to be complimented on the way she looks. That, and to be given a chance to pee without being assaulted when I really need to go….
19 Responses
take no notice .do NOT listen. peoples views/judgements very SNOTTY NOSED. i am Disabled i get a lot Peoples BAD views/judgements ..Your a lot more LADY than Most ., Mark.x
Mark,
Thank you for your reminder. “Kindness first” should be everyone’s motto when it comes to basic human needs. I am so sorry to hear that you get judged badly.
Lisa
A brilliant article that zeroes right in on the heart of the matter. I could never understand the logic in this since most women’s bathrooms have separate stalls, and quite frankly when I am in ‘girl’ mode I sit down to pee!
Paulette,
You are right, although I am sympathetic to the sanctuary argument, which I believe is authentic. Still, in more and more places these days there are non-gender-specific restrooms. Now, if we could just teach men to sit down and not urinate on the toilet seat. That drives me bonkers!
Lisa
I’ve never understood the argument against trans women in women’s restrooms
In fact for me the first time I did it I was extremely nervous, afraid I would be assaulted and yelled at and embarrassed
Like you say I just want a safe place to do my business and leave
Nothing more than that
Rachael
Rachael,
I was so nervous the first time, thinking I would be called out. It was a non-event. I will admit to a few “queer” looks now and then, but maybe that was just because my eyeliner was misapplied that day…I choose to believe that, as it is better for my confidence!
Lisa
as 1 comic said a couple of years ago-all they want to do is take a s—
& that question should have been raised in the above “just where do you propose they go”?
Emily,
Exactly! Walk a mile in my high heels before you start telling me I don’t belong where other women belong.
Lisa
Lisa,
An extremely well thought out post. Thank you for providing a meaningful and rational response.
Jocelyn
Jocelyn,
It is sad that 3 years after I wrote that piece, it is just as relevant (if not more so).
Thank you for letting me know you appreciated it.
1 more thought kind of related–I would bet that most men and women who are in a snit over our use of the ladies room are clueless about the fact that there ARE transmen who have to deal with this problem as well
Emily,
You are so so right. Because misogyny lies behind many of these attitudes, transmen are not considered a threat. But there have been cases where cisgender women were mistaken for a transgender women when the “gender police” were out on patrol. In any case it always seems to be ok if a woman wants to be in the men’s room.
Lisa
If I were to make a women uncomfortable by my presence in the women’s restroom I would leave without argument. Most people are ignorant about transgender women, we may have asked to much from society. The country may not be ready to embrace transgender rights.
I do know when I go out I have always been treated with respect and kindness. This gives me hope for our community.
Julie,
I agree, because I think we have a duty to be kind, and kindness includes caring about another person’s feelings. Of course, I might react differently were someone to get in my face (just being honest here).
Thank you for contributing your thoughts, as always!
Lisa
We are having a new building being constructed. I got a special tour of it last month while construction was going on.. It only has large genderless restrooms for men, women, and …., all at the same time. (Not the genderless locked executive restrooms.) At the time of the tour, the stalls where mostly in, but we couldn’t enter, so I didn’t see if there were any urinals. The building contractor called it “european style.” Or was that you-are-a-peeing? Too much construction noise all around to hear clearly.
Cali,
You made me laugh with your “you-are-a-peeing” quip! Laughter is good medicine, especially when things are stressful. Thank you!
Lisa
Lisa,
Since being fulltime I have had one woman question me using a wormen’s toilet , asking me straight did I have a penis , i called her bluff by replying I didn’t , she hadn’t misread me but may have been told about my background .
The whole situation is illogical for several reasons , for example some countries in Europe have communinal toilets in fact I recal one where the women and children filed past the male urinals when in use .
In the early days I played safe by using disabled toilets until one disabled person became heated with me for using them as an abled bodied person . My ex-wife is very out spoken of me using women’s washrooms and refuses to see the logic in me not using male ones . As you clearly point out we are most unlikely to attack anyone in fact we are more likely to be the victim , thankfully the recent UK High Court ruling stating only women at birth could use women’s facilities appears to have died a death . It totally ignored so many aspects of all transgender people both M/F and F/M , trying to enforce it would have been unworkable .
The reality is many women’s washrooms aren’t the haven of peace and tranquility , for me it’s been quite an eyeopener , the things I’ve heard and seen !
Teresa,
I hear you, and definitely think you reacted appropriately to the woman who challenged you. I have thought about saying to such a person, “I will take my blouse off after you take yours off!” What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander! But I am on hormones, so that response may not work as a solution for everyone, as the other person may actually do it!
As far the impact of the bad UK High Court decision this spring, I have felt the impact directly. I just completed a Consultation form for the City of London relating to access to the Ladies’ Bathing Pond at Hampstead Heath. TG women have had access since 2019, without a single issue. But the TERF’s have campaigned against us and now the issue of access is being reconsidered in light of the Scotland decision. The questionnaire specifically considered allowing access to bathe while potentially denying access to the changing rooms and bathrooms.
I keep hoping that sane minds will prevail, because our use of bathrooms causes no harm other than to narrow-minded persons’ sensibilities.
Lisa
Lisa,
I admit I’ve avoided changing and shower facilities despite loving swimming but otherwise toilets have never been a problem , as you say we harm no one . I hope you do get a common sense decision with the bathing pool . Often in these circumstances they overlook the F/M group where they are possibly pumped with T and endured surgery so sport muscle mass and facial hair but according to the Court ruling they are still eligble to use female facilities . This must hurt them as much as the situation can hurt us , like I said the court ruling is a farce .
I still feel the High Court ruling was more a political gesture by J.K. Rowling taking a pop at the Labour Party after they rejected her deal over sponsoring at the last general election . If I’m right what does such a wealthy woman really get out of it ?
As for the woman who asked about my gender parts I kept it low profile as she may have been fishing for a reaction and the fact is she didn’t get one so it left the ball in her court to prove or disprove me .